This sorrow proceeding merely from the fear of punishment, is called legal repentance, as being excited by the terrors of legal penalties, and it may exist without an amendment of life. Now the Lordship salvation, works righteousness folks will claim if you dont sin less after you are saved, significantly lessthen your salvation didnt take. we were gone by then. My heart goes out to his wife and kids. 20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. Thats not being victimized, thats being tempted by women who need healing not exploitation. Andy, Lets try this show me 2 things; 1.) I hope there is a place for restoration to ministry someday also, God has used this man in a mighty way in multitudes of lives. If true that absolutely stuns me. You probably dont want to go there with me, as I may know more than you want to hear. How you define orthodoxy isnt the final word on the matter, is it? Make your own application, Bob wrote: Ive studied John Macarthur for quite some time and know him to be a wolf in sheeps clothes. We were very involved. In a congregation this size of course there are others who have been / are guilty of the same transgressions and there will be others in the future. Youre saying he was fired which is inaccurate. Pray for Bob and his family.He is only human.We are all sinners.The devil is hard at work all over the world.Follow Jesus.He will not foresake you. To make my last post clear, the amillennial position is not from God, and the true position, that takes the Bible literally and believes in a literal 1000 year Kingdom when Jesus returns, is the original position that the first believers held. At communion are you consuming the actual, real, body and blood of Jesus? What about their families? Ive listened to Tullian on Moody and he tries to imitate Paul Washer too much for my taste. You must be great at bringing people the Good News. Thanks for enriching us. Luther wrote what he wrote, so you go with that, no matter what. Instead, the pastors Smith installed in his hundreds of megachurches, which are similar to Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, had nearly unlimited power over budgets, personnel, and message. This got the ball rolling and ultimately he resigned because the board wouldve gone public if he didnt. In 2017, he was accused of sexually abusing a four-year-old girl. The governing board of the church is providing counselors and ministers who will help guide him through the process of full repentance, cleansing and restoration, the statement reads. Barbara, Sure there are some quotes but the conclusions are laughable. Bob isnt. The Asst Pastors are pretty weak with the exception of Bill Schott BUT he is a teacher and not evangelical. Bob Coy's Real "Profile Picture" - Phoenix Preacher A few things to keep in mind BC may have said look to Jesus but his actions did not. I stand corrected. Ill be blunt. It was very beautiful and solemn there. Then Outreach Pastor Chet Lowe specifiedto the congregation that Coy "committed adultery with more than one woman" and "committed sexual immorality, habitually, through pornography.". Dread/Alan, thank you for the way you express things. This is very important for forgiveness and redemption. He even had his own brother stand in front of thousands to apologize. "I took a polygraph." I cant agree with this statement at all. In 2006, Coy's church in Fort Lauderdale landed in court over claims of lax oversight. Andy, did you get your 691 out of a Chick comic book? He resigned he was not fired! To enjoy our website, you'll need to enable JavaScript in your web browser. He confessed. Then there was another put up for bid winning at a lower price. Regardless of what Bob has done, that should not interfere with our relationship with God, we have to stand strong in our faith and love for Him. E, my atheist friends know right from wrong. He can be restored as a brother but I wouldnt give him the keys to another church. Not a witch hunt at all. An Insider's Perspective: Pastor Bob Coy Said One Day He'd Disappoint Lets not use this thread for our personal theological musings, please. Fidel has mentioned cheating on Theresa several, several times during his sermons. However, keep in mind that Coy would sue me into oblivion if I was wrong. how are you furthering ring the kingdom with this blog? Also read the 2nd to last paragraph from June. I still attend CCFL because I believe that I can help some of the younger members. Lots of times these powerful pastors mete out some discipline or are heavy-handed with a churchgoer and not as gracious as they could have been or maybe the pastor was wrong the sheep was rightand then the pastor gives them the left foot of fellowship and the rest of the ginormous following does the shunning etc.so I understand why some will have their moment of glee over this. Long before his epic fall from grace, the pastor used his own struggles with sex and drugs to preach that anyone could find redemption in Jesus. one more thing. and also, after reading the article in Charisma, The governing board of the church is providing counselors and ministers who will help guide him .. uh, what about for the congregation?????? You chose to join in I did not initiate the conversation. There was a time many years ago that many good families were leaving. ?..he was a FRAUD. MLD, we are listening to the apostles. How is this furthering the kingdom? When a blitzed, 26-year-old Coy went to see his brother the next day, Jim threw a Bible at him and told him to read it. You never know what youd do if you were in his position.thats like a bum saying hed never do what a rich man would do. Register today for the I Am His conference at. He would regularly "finger and fondle her" genitals, make her touch his penis, and "dirty talk" to her. This is not uncommon among men. or are you just repeating here say? They were the ones with the power to fire him, and they did so. So here is one for you. But since returning to South Florida, he's spent most nights here, helping run the Funky Biscuit a late return to his music industry roots. How was this non bodied being bound with a chain? He really should have thought this one out. 2. Against a power play by Bob [ie. May we be in prayer for him, lest we be found with that same measurement being measured back unto us. The CC dove poops again. 1 Peter 4:8 Most important of all, continue to show deep love for each other, for love covers a multitude of sins. Ive seen many come and go and have seen a lot of stuff I didnt like here. Bob Coy did not address the congregation on Sunday. Imagine what all those kids at Liberty are thinking now. http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/43441-what-we-can-learn-from-calvary-chapel-pastor-bob-coy-s-moral-failure, Diamond Donny wrote: He said Satan was looking to destroy people .he sure did not take his advice. -, - ; , . By nature were not monogamous, observation, life and experience will readily show you this. While you are rejoicing in the fall of another you should do your home work and renounce you idol worship of your anti-Jewish god Luther, along with the gracious burn them at the stake unrepented Calvin. MLD, I think the Whittenburg door is blocking your ability to understand scripture, Jesus said, do this in memory of me in John 6 when he spoke to them of eating his flesh and drinking his blood, he told them after the crowds left that he was speaking to them spiritually! He was the Passover lamb that they would be internalizing when he died on the cross for their sins! When we finally gave in and moved to another city, we were followed and found there, and had more personal property damage done to us. is the 1000 years? I disagree with Smith on losing salvation (I dont believe you can lose salvation), on counting a generation from the re-establishment of Israel, on the resurrection body. Coy's faithful didn't know it, but just over a year after the pastor's resignation for adultery, Coral Springs Police launched their investigation into a far worse allegation. > Steve Wright, ( obviously a real person, one of the brave ones): as you correctly state, I am in fact a visitor, and apparently one arriving with nievte (relative to a newcomer).as you so poignantly state, caught in the wreckage Yours is the only post that reflects some of what I would expect/hope for amongst believers , (and for that I thank you i.e. Im still waiting! And there they go, a lamb is not a lion a lion and a lamb are the same lol, anybody want a pretzel? You, however, are Martin Luthers disciple, so we know where to find the beliefs you swiped. Unfortunately, my current cat is not among them. Funny how theres one standard someone has about bearing false witness to their buddy and another one for me. In other words you are fighting for a literal 1,000 yr period for a non existent kingdom. Im not doubting your passion for your convictions. He threw away everything, his family, his vows, his integrity, his reputation is forever damaged..why??? By that account we are all guilty, except it would seem for MLD. And we now have media Pastor?? Did God ask you to do this? It cant be, for me and for the entire planet. According to sources familiar with the matter, Coy confessed to key leaders on Wednesday. Michael, you know that this thread is going to deteriorate. BD, how can you say youre not a Calvinist and yet stand idly by while they pervert the scriptures and negate the truth and promises of God, sounds like youve been brainwashed by 600 years of lies! How do you KNOW that Israel on the Mediterranean is the Israel of God? Is it a place to raise up believers to Go out and make disciples? About half a year later, the victim visited the police department and said she had an "experience with God" and has found forgiveness for Coy. It never happened. MLD, no point in debating anything with you. I need it just as much (or more) than he does. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amillennialism. Like. So youre saying youve never viewed porn in all the time youve been married? But then, in April 2014, he resigned in disgrace after admitting to multiple affairs and a pornography addiction. Because I dared tell the truth about your idol? There was a group of loyal congregants there, even when they moved out of the shopping center and into a school to save money when all the while there were huge back rents needing to be paid. The Bible spells out exactly what must be done: And the man that committeth adultery with another mans wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbours wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10) Are any of the Lord Gods words clearer than these: the adulterer shall surely be put to death? Shouldnt they as you say, be restorative? Both guilty, but with massively different responsibilities before God. But with false doctrine he said But I have this against you, that you tolerate the woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, and she teaches and leads My bond-servants astray.. Miami New Times also pointed to a long list of other staff who are part of the global family of Calvary Chapel churches and have been accused of sexual abuse, including a number from earlier this year. I know God is not surprised by all this but we all need to get a grip! I have witnessed decades of the David example being taught by CC pastors to justify restoration of sexually sinning leaders. Smith was among the first pastors to make a startling discovery: Many of the hippies and disaffected youth who'd come for the Summer of Love had realized psychedelic drugs and the Grateful Dead weren't filling the holes in their lives. 8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the basilisks den. It is never healthy. where is pastor bob coy now 2020. I too had moral failure well after I stepped away from staff. Now the Holy Spirit is prompting me to pray for him and all of a sudden, the anger has been replaced by compassion. Put away your golden calf and stop your man worship. He was discharged shortly after New Year's Eve, but was readmitted a few days later to Presbyterian Intercommunity Hospital in Whittier, California. Now either dialogue with respect or go back to selling bridges to imaginary Calvinists. I go by erunner as I dont know if people would know who I am if I went by Allan so even though my name is known I stick with the moniker. I am just trying to do better myself. Ive heard bits and pieces of it, but never read it all. There is obviously far more to the story that I dont have sufficient verification on. How can we middle aged women compete with an image of a physically perfect 25 year old? He sat on a U.S. presidential advisory board and received weekly updates straight from GOP mastermind Karl Rove. Im still here, though I have had a couple of colds since the Chuck curse. I do have issue with his lies, spending money on mistresses, and exposing his wife to STDs. May God have mercy, and may God use situations like this to remind all of us just how vulnerable we are when we do that which is right in our own eyes. Im just sick to death of Christians jumping all over each other when theyve fallen. Well, what happened to the $ since there was never a new sanctuary? I hope Joe Focht can get her story and reconsider the Moses Model and other vision casters in his region. Calvary Chapel will always be my church, I never went there thinking that my pastors were saints, I went their to learn how to become a better person, how to live a faithful life with God, how to try and become more like Jesus TRY because no one in this planet has walked without sin except JESUS. "Those men cannot call sin sin," one 20-year veteran of the church complained to the publication. Facebook gives people the power to share. I guess the scars remain although toughened with time. The power this one man had over everyone was beyond imaginable. He had everyone mesmerized. Join thousands of others to get the FREEDOM POST newsletter for free, sent twice a week from The Christian Post. Dont know the person but I think they attended CCFL. Coddington was charged with a misdemeanor and pleaded guilty on April 7, 2005. No, my answer is well beyond convenient, it is crafted after years of thought, consideration and observation. And your calling me an idiot seems to indicate that Calvinism is idiocy with which I agree completely! Did she die? Coy, who has also been divorced from his wife, is reportedly looking into the prospect of starting a new church again despite the controversy. PS Connie and Ashleigh (Pastors Gregs wife) have been afflicted with cancer I will ask you all to hold them in prayer this month please. As an attendee of this church I am shocked and disappointed. Im not here to parrot press releases. Being estranged from God and condemned by our sinfulness, our salvation is wholly dependent upon the work of Gods free grace. I sincerely hope you prayed about this before you set out to broadcast it to the entire world. As New Times revealed in an investigation published Tuesday, former Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale Pastor Bob Coy who once led the largest megachurch in Florida was accused in 2015 of. The problem here is, that you are a skeptic, period. Thats a big deal = Bob chose. I have a feeling cause I saw someone else with the exact car.. Quite an eclectic mix of emails coming in. Pure speculation on my part. They chose to ignore the explosion that created and run all their services as normal anyway. This whole thing is hard on you, but it doesnt justify what youre doing. Stop this! Founded in 1985 by Bob Coy and his wife Diane, it is affiliated with the Calvary Chapel movement. If they are true, there is a greater problem than Bob Coys moral failure. Who killed her? Where is your indignation over that? Thats getting copied and pasted and saved to be used a lot in the future . No one is perfect, thats why we are just human flesh. But there is a big difference. Coddington grew up in Rupert, Idaho, reading all the car and hot rod magazines he could, and got his first car (a 1931 Chevrolet truck) at age 13. 6 And the wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. Unless you live in this area you have no idea the influence BC has had on it. So I would say there is a different parrot on this post and its the parrot that mimics a heretic named John Calvin! This situation needs wisdom, prayer, and inordinately strong men/women to hold their course and see this thing through. BD, the content of what Im stating cannot be denied, I have dialogued many Cavinists and when push comes to shove these are the things they believe, why are they embarrassed by these teachings, or try to deny them. The reason for the resignation is a "moral failing," according to Calvary Chapel leaders, as reported by the Christian Post. They always fail to note the huge differences between the king and themselves. That's not good enough, critics say. Do we expose a fraud or recover a brother? . I know the poster meant well, but this seems to be the kind of pastor worship that causes these problems in the first place, and lets pastors feel invincible for years of sin. People would drive by our home, honk their horns and scream terrible things at us. Im pretty sure if it had been men, that Coy would have got nuked at a higher temperature. May the same be done to Bob Coy. Coys not aloneI know of quite a few CC pastors who are just un-caught for similar sins and other equally bad or worse stuff. Not judge him!! So Hugh, I think you and others twist scriptures right out of Jesus mouth to make a Hal Lindsey / Chuck Missler / Tim LaHaye point. If one sticks around for awhile, those friendships and identities will develop. I cant find it on the backend. Phoenix Preacher 2023. Michael has his little posse of the usual suspects, always looking for a lynching, like circling vultures at the scent of a wounded sojourner, depart from me for I never knew you, you workers of iniquity! Are the words those of your ilk will ever hear unless you repent, you shall know them by their fruits, and your fruit stinks! Ill let the heavy hitters take the rest of the shift. And so are you. MLD, you have the right of it. It falsely teaches that a person must walk well enough to prove that they were saved. The church still claims about 20,000 members, and on a recent Wednesday night, thousands of them poured in for a service led by Pastor Sauder, Coy's replacement. Its a wonderful way to live, Lorenzo. 7 And when the THOUSAND YEARS are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the NATIONS WHICH ARE IN THE FOUR QUARTERS OF THE EARTH, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. Just saying maybe. Hopefully Bob Coy will be teaching this Sunday. Some who have been mistreated by Coy will rejoice and have an I told you so attitude and I understand that. It just shows you cant answer me, so you put up a man who has been dead over 400 yrs and argue with him. This place has a gifting for helping saints deal with things like you are going thru. The last thing we need to do is turn on each other over this because first, There is nothing new under the sun Second, we have a whole unbelieving world out there that will be looking for an explanation and answers and we are focused on discrediting each other and being right??? The sexual assault claims, which have never before been divulged,. They wanted spirituality but could never go back to their parents' churches. But Newnham says the pastor still has more to answer for especially because his sources say Coy has been trying to mobilize investors to start a new church. Your medication seems to wear off right before bedspeak to your physician. So after some unspecified "very embarrassing behavior," Capitol fired him. #464, Unfortunately, I see this all over the place in American evangelicalism. Just a simple yes or no will suffice. I wish that were not so, but theres much more information waiting to burst. "That changes today. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and SHALL REIGN WITH HIM A THOUSAND YEARS. Grace Bible Church Plantation. So yes we still sin after salvation as our flesh and spirit do battle and will continue to do so until the day we die. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. What a piece of s.. standing in the pulpit all the while knowing he was screwing 2 other woman if not more. You have been well shelterd if you are so unaware of what happens in the real world. 2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD. You and I argue a lotbut Im in agreement with you on this matter. I reacted in context of numerous other people who commented shortly before you who apparently excused Coys behavior or attacked people here for discussing the effects and ramifications of those choices. It will be interesting in this post-Coy(tal) era to learn the truth as it comes out. At one time I clearly remember the address was Pompano Beach but maybe that was at the gateway location. Broward State Attorney Mike Satz says he was never notified about the investigation. Even the disciples were surprised by what happened. Pride is something that could be seen from his pulpit for many years now. I listened to it again and its as powerful as the first time we posted it. Hes also fortunate to have a leadership willing to assist in his restoration and a congregation that will be praying for him. Well the subject is that is Bob Coy is not fit to be a Pastor because of his sexual indiscretions. If you are blessed, you may find one to lay your weary self at for a while. It would also give her the opportunity to stop worrying as much. To all who insist he honorably initiated his resignation: His last fb post (Thursday at 3:37) was I cant wait for beach baptisms next month! Does that sound like a man who plans to end his pastorate that same evening? I remember him saying many times, do not put your faith in man because man will let you down including me, put your faith in God. He is human, I will be praying for him and his family. I was able to get some details on the matter and published yesterday afternoon. The true church is composed of all persons who through saving faith in Jesus Christ and the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit are united together in the body of Christ. People were asked to make pledges. Psalm 34:17 The righteous cry out, and the Lord hears them; he delivers them from all their troubles.18 The Lord is close to the broken hearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit. MLD? So heres to you hypocrites as you go to bed tonight and pull out the pleasure files! Want me to tell you the amount of their FPL bill? no im not angry. Let there be no hint of rejoicing in this sad day. my neighbors are heathens and not under the law of Christ.further I will be raising you in prayer because you obviously need it since youre so bitter and are caring so much burden. We are all vulnerable and weak!! Adultery creates a ripple effect that grows outward and touches so many lives not just the two involved and it takes two willing participants to maintain. But he declines to share the results of the test, which he says was not done for the police. So, when they said, clean out your desk, he did.. And I did ask Andy and others if they could make a connection between Isaiah and the millennium? Scary how someone can look you in the eye, while doing a sermon filled with lies. As far as I can see Bob Coy hasnt been allowed to stay in his sin like the WV thing was about last week. (1) Faith in Jesus: Check; (2) Mega-anything = mega-bad: Check. Instead you drew a caricature based on his post for your #54 and made anyone reading who might be 300 pounds feel even better about themselves. How is asking for prayer casting a stone about something for which he has admitted? messages - iamhisconference.com This is a Christian blog? | (Screenshot: YouTube/Liberty University) Bob Coy, founder of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale in Florida who resigned as senior pastor over moral failings in 2014, has been accuse My information is that he doesnt have a snowballs chance in hell of coming back. In 2006, Coys church in Fort Lauderdale landed in court over claims of lax oversight. Bob knew all the more well what he was doing, there wasnt some demon forcing him into this action. There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. (Romans 8:1 ESV). Where is bob? MacArthur isnt a wolf in sheeps clothing, hes just a self-righteous pious a-hole from the pulpit, but at least he tows his own line in his personal life. Youre not speaking Gods words, youre talking out your sanctimonious backside and youre in sin. His daughter, Janette Manderson, and his widow, Kay, sued the organization, alleging its leaders conspired to take over Smith's empire and even denied him emergency medical care on his deathbed. For many people, restoration mistakenly means the duration before the erring pastor is behind the pulpit again. Another explosive comment on the other blog about Coy. Whats the big deal, so he diddled a few broads, werent they consenting adults, how can anyone judge, maybe they had an open marriage, comman people relax its only sex, it only last a few minutes, what is that, like less than 5% of all the other things hes doing for the church, leave the guy alone, I dont see any women complaining, didnt King David have a few dozen women standing in the wings waiting for their turn, and how bout Solomon, a few hundred to choose from, well dont read their works in your Bible then, and isnt every pastor guilty of adultery if you take Jesus words seriously, that to look upon a woman with lust youve already committed adultery, using this criteria shouldnt every pastor in America be fired, give the guy a break, hes a good teacher, everyone strays a little bit and has a little strange on the side, many wives know this and realize it doesnt mean anything, just a little release.
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