Since then, I have often recommended medium bores, such as Elmer Keiths favorite .33s, and Ive used the 8mm Remington Magnum a lot. They have almost all abandoned the cartridge. The recent introduction of a Hornady LeverEvolution factory load for the .35 Remington has usefully improved its ballistics. Either way, the Newton is the unbelted twin of the .358 Norma. factory load is a 250-grain Oryx bullet listed with a muzzle velocity of 2723 f.p.s. As well, most bullet manufacturers produce soft, 200-grain roundnosed bullets intended for the .35 Remington, and these fit a wide range of uses. The cartridge would be championed by Denys Finch Hatton (of Out of Africa fame), John Pondoro Taylor and Pete Pearson, and would be used by Baron Bror von Blixen-Fineke as well. The .35 (.358) caliber has never really gotten a serious toehold here, although the occasional item like the .35 Whelen, .350 Remington Magnum, or .358 Winchester roils the waters every now and again. I have built all 3 several times for various customers and owned both the 358 Norma and the 9.3X62. However, Winchesters .338 Magnum proved to be the darling of not only those bound for the 49th state, but for those hunting elk and moose at lower latitudes. For the handloader, as the accompanying table demonstrates, the .358 Norma Magnum provides an almost unbelievable range of possibilities, from loads light enough for gallery shooting to heavy enough. Although such weight is rare, a big bull can exceed 1,000 pounds. Perhaps, if the word gets out to the shooting public, the born again .350 may finally achieve the commercial success it deserves. Hornadys LEVERevolution pushes the performance up a notch with a 200-grain pointed bullet at 2225 f.p.s. The rivalry between the .338-inch and .358-inch bore diameters has a considerable history; both topped out at 300 grains (at one point in time in history), and both have a lower end of 180 grains. But have owned multiple 9.3s and Whelens. Kevin Steele from Petersen's HUNTING speaks to Jordan Egli of Burris Optics about the all-new Veracity PH Riflescope. It, as you know, can be loadeddown to be a 35 Whelen but the reverse is not true. In an age of ultra-specializatio in every field, and especially rifles, such versatility is almost an anachronism. It did shine with 148gr Double ended wadcutters over a few grains of 700x shooting clover leaf groups at 50 yards, I used it all fall putting squirrels in the pot. it is one nice gun and made for tight places. It is easy to forget that the .358 bore comes in an extremely varied range of twist rates from 1:16 to 1:12. is on the threatened list, this one is on a path to extinction. Moving down a notch and comparing the .35 Whelen (250 grain bullet at a MV of 2400 fps) to the .30-06 (220 grains at 2410 fps), which have nearly identical case capacity, we find that the optimum game range (OGW) on 1000 pound animals is 10 yards for the .30-06 and 100 yards for the .35 Whelen. Hunting Shack 35WHELEN1N Game King 35 Whelen 225 gr Sierra GameKing Spitzer Boat-Tail - 20rd Box. Have a .350 Rem Mag, building a .358 Win currently, would prefer to do the .358 Norma if possible but not sure if this action can handle it.Anyone? As a comparison, the .358 Winchester with a 250 grain bullet at 2300 fps delivers 25.4 foot-pounds of recoil from a 7.5 pound rifle. Looks like I'll do a Whelen. The softpoints were used for the various antelope species, dangerous cats and even buffalo, while the full-patch, non-expanding solids would be used on elephant. Mention the Rigby name to any rifle aficionado, and odds are that the famous .416 Rigby cartridge will come quickly to mind, and with good reason; it is an undeniable classic. Had the .358 Norma Magnum been chambered in an American rifle, or at least promoted by an American company, the popularity of the cartridge may have been much greater than it is. compare 338/06 vs 338 win, and 35 whelen vs 358 norma vs 358 alaskan (stw) loaded to same pressure. Rifle Recoil Table. Subscriber Services. The Newton was supposedly loaded, by Western Cartridge, to 2,975 fps with a 250-grain bullet, but I, for one, would want to see the chronograph reading. .500 Nitro Express. However, should a hunter who enjoys using cartridges that arent among the most popular find a rifle chambered for the .358 Norma Magnum? The big case certainly made its reputation with the 250-grain bullets, as their sectional density gives excellent penetration on even the heavy-boned animals, and the .358 Norma can push them to a muzzle velocity of 2750 fps. was also the only cartridge of that original Remington family that was based on a different parent case. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. [quote=encorerbHmmm, makes me wonder. Where does the .358 Norma sit, in comparison to the more popular cartridges in its class? Released in 1908, the .350 Rigby Magnum is an entirely original design, with no parent cartridge. In rifle cartridges, we usually take the safe route and .30-caliber has emerged as the American shooters choice. As Ive said, I like mediums, such as the unpopular 8mm Remington Magnum and the faster .33s. A 358Norma is a good fit for this action. All Rights Reserved. The .350 Magnum has a case length of 2.742 inches, and an overall cartridge length 3.44 inches, so it will feel at home in a magnum-length receiver. The .350 can drive a 250 grain bullet to a MV of 2500 fps. Why the .35 Rem. However, that may be changing, or at least the possibility of change may exist. On the other hand, you must hit it well, because if poorly hit, an elk shows strength and stamina and may cover many miles of tough country. Years of development and pushing the limits of what is possible in a rifle optic have led up to this moment. What should the discerning collector look for in a potential buy? By and large, we shooters seem to gravitate to the middle of the road; to bland, yet predictable, mediocrity. In Johanssons case, disdain for serious training left him vulnerable when the superbly conditioned Patterson came back a year later, gave him a dazzling boxing lesson and reclaimed the title. With such a variety of bullets, you would think the skys the limit in terms of different loads, but there are other factors to consider. Posts: 46,063. Back in 1983 Winchester introduced the .356 Win. The Remington Model 673 Guide Rifle was chambered in .350 Rem. A failed product is often said to be ahead of its time, which is usually just a polite way of saying nobody wanted to buy it. Don't like Rugers much had my fill of them and now they are gone down the road. Unlike either the .338 or .375, the .35 (.358-inch) has been a standard American caliber since 1900. For a while Savage chambered it in the Model 99, and I am still looking for one I can afford. Cartridges that in many cases cannot match the killing power, at normal hunting ranges, of comparable .35's. Quite honestly, the .350 Rigby isnt a cartridge Id describe as practical, but if you are looking for something quite left of center, this may be for you. Pet Loads and Handloader are registered trademarks of Wolfe Publishing Company. There are many good choices, and shot placement is more important than case dimensions and bullet diameter. This wonderful efficiency of the .35 calibers is especially remarkable when one considers that most all of these rounds are verging on obsolescence today. There is certainly no lack of .358-inch diameter bullets to choose from but brass is limited. This is in sharp contrast to the overwhelming success of the .357/9mm handgun cartridges, whose popularity dates right to the beginning of the self-contained cartridge era. Like most of the children of the Holland & Holland parents, the .358 Norma uses its shoulder for headspacing, rather than the belt, as do the .375 and .300 H&H. The .35 Rem. They include both the AccuBond and the Partition 225-grain bullets with a muzzle velocity of 2800 f.p.s. up to 0.358 inches and dubbed it the poor mans magnum.. The Whelen is a more sensible choice, but the Rigby isnt about sensibility, its about nostalgia and a connection to a bygone age. So if you have a .375 (or larger) and a yen to take it elk hunting, be my guest. Got a nice .270 Win MTN Rifle donor 700. The long accepted story was that James V. Howe developed the cartridge in 1922 and named it in honor of his friend, gunwriter Col. Townsend Whelen. Mag. A cross-section of loads for the .358 Norma Magnum include the (1) Sierra 125-grain JHP, (2) Sierra 170 FMJ, (3) Speer 180, (4) 200-grain cast bullet and a (5) Sierra 200 roundnose. Lyman lists 47 different moulds that were available at one time or another, ranging in bullet weight from 70 to 282 grains. Clearly, for the hunter seeking heavy game and willing to accept this level of recoil, the .358 Norma Magnum deserves far more popularity than it has received. The .351 WSL did grab a bit of fame, first as a popular rifle for prison guards and then as one of the rifles used to punch a lot of holes in Bonnie and Clydes automobile (although that accolade is in question). . of energy at the muzzle. Yet, that bore diameter produces some of the best hunting cartridges available. 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The 35 whelen and 358 winchester were the two I was torn between. The big issue with the .350 Rigby Magnum is the lack of available ammunition. Released in 1959though there were no factory chambered rifles or factory loaded ammunition available for the new cartridgeNorma offered chamber reamers and new component brass for its new brainchild. These include some of my favorites, such as the .358 Winchester and .45-70. Can't really imagine one cartridge doing anything the other couldn't, though the availability of bigger bullets and way more factory ammo (if wanted) are definite pluses for the Mauser. It is capable of driving a. But there is another Rigby cartridge, vastly overlooked even among rifle cranks, but which was at one time as popular as the .375 H&H Magnum: the .350 Rigby Magnum. Actual weight depends on subspecies, nutrition, and age, but 600 pounds is a good starting point for grownup bulls and twice the size of an unusually large deer. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. Heeding the advice of American friends, Kvale worked on what would become the .358 Norma Magnum. The quest for an acceptable .35 has inspired such impotent wastes as the .35 Winchester Self Loader, once labeled a candidate for the title: Worlds Most Useless Center-Fire Rifle Cartridge.. but it does have the 22" barrel and the irons , looks and feels like a MTN rifle to me. has been offered in just about every rifle action type ever conceived and a few handguns. The .358 Norma can be loaded down to duplicate the performance of either of the two smaller cartridges. And, as any fan of the .35-caliber cartridges knows, there are quite a few bullet weights to choose from within the caliber. Im voting no. But when Winchester chambered the .358 the following year in its unique lever-action, the Model 88, it became a really interesting cartridge. Today, it is strictly a custom proposition unless one of the original rifles chambered for it can be found. I bought it as a moose rifle but never got drawn in ten years. Kali Parmley, Editor-in-chief of Bakccountry Hunter speaks with Bret Maffet of Franchi Firearms to discuss the all new Momentum All Terrain Elite. of muzzle energy. Its safe to say that of all the .358 Norma Magnum rifles in existence, there are more custom than factory ones, and this makes it tricky to load for in another way. necked up to .35 caliber. From the .35 Winchester (1903), .35 Remington (1906) and .351 Winchester Self-Loading (1907) to the later .358 Winchester (1955) and .350 Remington Magnum (1965), there has always been at least one .35-caliber cartridge in use. This stumpy little cartridge was introduced to the hunting public in 1908 and is the only surviving member of the early class of Remington rimless cartridges. Any of these will handle just about any big game one might hunt with a .358 Norma, where you want to employ its ample knockdown power. I am also looking at building a 358 Norma Mag on a model 110 Savage action, formerly a 300 Win mag, and start from scratch with the stock ( bedding and pillar) and make it a tolerable shooter even if a bit heavy. By coincidence, in that same year, Norma Projektilfabrik of Sweden introduced its own heavyweight champion, the .358 Norma Magnum. Out of stock View Details . Sierras 225-grain spitzer boat-tail, designed for the .35 Whelen, is a stellar performer in the .358 Norma. From limited experience of loading for two different 358 Norma Magnum rifles (a Schultz & Larson Model 65 and a Custom Sako AV) I used to neck up new Winchester 338 Win. The H-4895 load given in the table is not from any manual but was worked up with the assistance of Hodgdon ballistician Ron Reiber. The better ones create mild gallery or small-game loads that are economical, quiet, virtually without recoil and best of all a lot of fun to shoot. The .308 Winchester is a fine elk cartridge, and the grand old .30-06, with a bit more velocity and energy, is better. Ive seen many elk taken cleanly with a .270 Winchester, and my own longest shot on an elk was on a big New Mexico bull at 400 yards using a .270 Winchester with a 150-grain Nosler Partitionone step and down. Norma Projektilfabrik answered Winchesters designs with a pair of their own: the .308 Norma Magnum and its slightly older brother, the .358 Norma Magnum. Also, after a few dozen elk hunts, Ive seen many taken effectively with lighter cartridges. The .356 Win. The .35 Whelen is accurate, hits hard, penetrates deep, shoots flat and recoils mildly. In the entry on the .358 Norma, it maintains that, had Norma convinced a major American riflemaker to offer the chambering in the early years, it could have become one of the greats. Essentially the .338 Winchester Magnum necked up to hold .358-inch bullets, the .358 Norma Magnum made all sorts of sense to a hunter in pursuit of large game, such as elk, moose and the great bears of the north. is a wonderful cartridge, but nobody buys them. The .357 Magnum is ideal for light game like javelina and will do for the smaller species of deer and antelope at short range. and .32 Rem. Right now, I think that the Browning BLR lever-action rifle is the only production gun left on the market in .358 Win. Boltface would have to be altered for the Norma. To return to our boxing analogy, the .358 Norma Magnum not only has the Hammer of Thor, but it also offers an excellent jab, a good hook, a wicked uppercut and a variety of feints. Follow along to see exactly how. The ammunition situation is a little better than the rifles. Sadly, my favorite bullet diameter, the .35 caliber, doesnt even rate a blip on the American shooters radar screen. Still have a 9.3 (so I guess it "won"). .50 Beowulf. That version is in some dispute, with evidence that Whelen himself developed the cartridge or at least worked with Howe on its development. Most were intended for .38-caliber handguns, but any bullet made for either the .38 Special or .357 Magnum can be loaded and shot in the .358 Norma Magnum with varying degrees of success. The sad truth is that the active list of current .35-caliber rifles and cartridges is tragically short. Moderate, safe, bland and predictable. Among the .35 caliber cartridges popular in the United States, the .358 offered a definite step up in performance; the .35 Remingtonthat popular woods rifleis much slower than the .358, and though the .35 Whelen has been among us since 1922, it would remain a wildcat until 1988. In cartridges, as in boxing, what goes on behind the scenes often determines the outcome. in its NoslerCustom line with a 225-grain Partition bullet at 2550 f.p.s. The .358 in a bolt-action rifle with a good scope is as accurate as any hunting cartridge available. .50 BMG. Would be nice to have a 35 Wheelie, 350 Rem and a .358 Win. Tried and true. was simply a .308 Win. Im going to rule out short-range cartridges that have the power because theres no sense in making the shot more difficult than necessary. The company has chambered several rifles in the cartridge including models in bolt-action, pump-action and semi-automatic. Mag. Its a decent cartridge, but American hunters just wont flock to it. Hunting Shack 358NORMA2N Game King 358 Norma 225 gr Sierra GameKing Spitzer Boat-Tail - 20rd Box. into the deer woods, and I pine for what could have been. It can work in close or at a distance or dazzle you with footwork. You can never lead if you always follow; the other cartridges were designed to chase Winchesters success, while the .35 Rem. As it was released in the first century of the . Thats a question I just dont understand. As it turned out, having a great punch was not enough for either one. was included in that party is a mystery, as it had no Winchester counterpart. Mag. The .338-inch fans cite the advantage of the higher sectional density figures, while the .358-inch camp favors the better frontal diameter of the larger bore. Equal in importance is that you can hit the elk. Here are the features to watch out for. As a "stopper" for use on dangerous game the .358 Norma is clearly superior to the .300 Magnums. Give a Gift Winchester and Hornady both offer 200-grain loads at 2475 f.p.s. was initially chambered in Remingtons Model 8 autoloader, soon followed by the Model 14 pump-action. There have been many others, such as the .35-30 Maynard (both in the 1865 and the 1882 versions) and .35-40 Maynard. I had the privilege of spending some time with a 1917 vintage take-down Rigby-Mauser rifle while on a hunt in Scotland, and the words sweet shooting came quickly to mind. Movement is more random in big country. Short of a wounded elephant or Cape buffalo in thick cover, there is no game I can think of for which you could not concoct a load in the .358. when fired in a 7.5 pound rifle. Sadly, I cant find a single major gunmaker chambering this cartridge today. Winchester introduced its initial trio of belted magnums in the mid-1950sthe .458 Winchester Magnum, .338 Winchester Magnum and .264 Winchester Magnumand all were designed for the long-action receiver, using a case length equal or similar to the .30-06 Springfield. In more recent times, the 1994 release of the .450 Rigby gave dangerous game hunters a bit more bullet weight than the .416 Rigby and has developed a small but devout following among both professional hunters and their clients alike. Here in North America, you could take the .350 Rigby anywhere youd take the .35 Whelen or .358 Norma Magnum, and that includes north to Alaska for the great bears. Real world, the Norma bitchslaps brown bears and moose as convincingly as the 375H&H. Since lack of a gas seal in a low-pressure load is more of a nuisance than a danger, it can be ignored if you dont mind the soot. Is the .358 Norma Magnum a cartridge destined to make a huge comeback? The first time I ever hunted with a .358 Norma Magnum, it was a custom rifle built on a Mauser Mark X action. I am convinced there are better tools, and theres also that matter of mindset. Ive had a 350 RM in a 600 Remington since the 60s. This is comparable killing power to the long .375 H&H Magnum with a 300 grain bullet (ME 4331 ft. The norma would cost more if I had to open the bolt face. Synthetic wins over laminate because laminates, strongest of all, are also heaviest. Campfire 'Bwana. You get the shot you get, and within sensible limits, you must be able to take the shot offered.
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