"The age of criminal responsibility in this country is 10 that's too low. It has already been reported that Jon Venables real identity has been exposed in prison, where he is said to be receiving 24-hour protection. the street. The case of James, a two-year-old who was snatched from a shopping centre in Bootle, Liverpool, in 1993, before being tortured and left to die, shocked the nation. These are the words of an officer who was in the police station when DCI Geoff MacDonald of Merseyside Police broke the news to Denise that James was dead. In a 1993 interview, published in the Guardian newspaper just one day after Robert was convicted of the murder of James Bulger, Ann Thompson was quick to place fault on the neighborhood and the surrounding authorities, who she felt had failed both her and her sons. Neighbors later reported that it wasnt uncommon for Robert to be seen wandering the streets of Walton after midnight, since he was always running off at night. . Robert's feelings towards his half-brother also appear to have been ambivalent - he told police he would not have murdered James Bulger because 'if I wanted to kill a baby, I'd kill my own, wouldn't I?'. si fs. Heck, we don't even have murderers that young in New York.'. In the years between Venabless first return to prison and this latest conviction he was deemed to be living successfully in the community, when in fact he was working out ways to dodge his internet ban and hiding a computer in his headboard in order to download abusive images of children, including what the judge described this week as serious crimes inflicted on male toddlers. 'America is the land of shopping malls. He was always getting prizes for maths at school. Child killer Mary Bell and Maxine Carr, the former girlfriend of Soham murderer Ian Huntley, are the others. Good people asked the boys if they were lost or urged them to take "their baby brother" home as he cried for his mummy. James Bulger would now be weeks away from his 23rd birthday. He's a good reader if he's interested in it. Mrs Thompson claimed she had been the victim of revenge attacks after her identity became known. .". He said that on the day James was killed, when he went to the school in the afternoon to collect Jon he was told his son was missing. When Jon's parents gave a recent press interview, it was Mrs Venables who did most of the talking; the father just sat and cried. At the trialnine months laterI would learn that Robert Thompson had been among those people. This time we came together in shock and disbelief. I said no. There, he is terrorising a girl. The parents of James Bulgers killers have also come to learn that the consequences of that terrible day will stay with them for ever too. Take him home, the officer would say to her. It is about a Good Guy doll invaded by the spirit of a mass murderer who kills people in gruesome ways. The Liverpool Echo boasted that their man had one of 'just 34 seats' allocated to the international press. It was when Jon turned seven that Susan and the children had relocated to Norris Green, one of Liverpools larger, more reputable areas. Shortly after the breakup, an accidental fire destroyed the Thompsons home, leaving Ann homeless, jobless, and with little money to support her kids. 'I walked round for a couple of hours trying to find them. His body, defiled and broken in two by a train, two miles from where hed been taken, was foundtwo days later. 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His father, Neil, an unemployed panel-beater, was separated from his mother but they lived only a mile apart, saw each other every other day, and took equal care of the children. Venables and Thompson abducted, tortured and killed two-year-old James in Liverpool in 1993 when they were both aged just 10. "You look at him and you say to yourself, 'How could you be involved in anything like this?'" Boy A - Robert Thompson - was the shorter and more rounded of the two. When he played truant he was scared she would come and find him. They passed 36 people, with one recalling how they urged the boys to take their 'little brother' home because he was 'crying for his mummy'. They saw it with their eyes. gl. 'His mum was more strict. Bird Pictures. Yet, even while Susan admitted to being under huge emotional strain on a daily basis, the couple later denied that her constant hysterics would have encroached on Jon in any way, considering he was still in infancy at the time. The four who drove Suzanne to Romiley - Jean Powell (now Jean Gillespie), Bernadette McNeilly, Glyn Powell, and Anthony Dudson - were all found guilty of murder. Two boys who forged a friendship out of breaking the rules. Denise Fergus is the same age as me, a fact I only registered when I met her for the first time two weeks ago. There is hatred and envy directed at the baby - a wish to see it suffer in the way they have suffered. Could they have planned to do it in advance? Susan Venable - we found 141 people search records: 55 CVs and social profiles with photos, 50 addresses & phone numbers, 1 real estate objects, 6 Susan Venable's cars, 2 companies. kl. "I don't think we went wrong as parents at all. With Neil seldom in contact with Susan or the children during this time, Susan was forced to contend with Jons escalating troubles alone, sometimes taking her own frustrations out on the children. Their. Nature. She claimed, however, that she was completely unaware of Jons erratic behaviors at school, had never seen any evidence to support them (such as cuts on his arms or holes in his socks), and dismissed the possibility that many of the occurrences cited by the teacher had ever taken place. The detective explained how, before she left, she soothed him, told him his parents would love him whatever he told the police, reminding him that Denise neededto know what had happened to her baby. The most startling moment of the trial came when, in lieu of giving evidence in person, the boys' taped interviews with police - recorded just after their arrest - were played in court. Robert would give Jon presents of stolen objects: trolls, of course, toy terrapins, sweets. What doing well means is anybodys guess. His body was found two days later on a railway line. 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It was their sons picked up by detectives. David James Smith, who wrote a book about the Bulger case, The Sleep Of Reason, and stayed in touch with Ann Thompson afterwards. Twenty-five years on, Im still prone to hot tears at the memory of it all and I do question the trial. His mother cared about him. We still think the same of him as we always have. Superintendent Kirby is a religious man. The sunrises through the sea mist over the sculpture The Couple by Sean Henry at Newbiggin-by-the-Sea on the Northumberland coast. Friday 12th February 1993. The end of the court case was not the end of course. football, snooker, things like that. Sitting in the new class was a chubby boy with a cherub's face - Robert Thompson. He always had plenty of friends. It was so stressful trying to contain him. Fiction Writing. "My heart really goes out to them. The shock in the city was plain to see, but it wasn't just in Liverpool that people stared at the CCTV pictures of the boy holding James' hand, while another led the way to the exit of the shopping centre where a frantic Denise Bulger would have been desperately looking for her child. However, you will find some great articles which you can comment on right now in our Comment section. The haunting words of Jon Venables' parents only interview have resurfaced, twenty five years after he killed tot Jamie Bulger. Since his 14-year-old brother, Phillip , had already tried to stab him, the social services agreed. They played a double act towards the children: his mother, Susan, aged 36, a sharp woman with a hawkish look, was the hard one. 'Sometimes I told Robbie to do things so he does,' he told a police officer, with pride in his voice. The family was put up in a hostel temporarily and later relocated by the social services. At his first primary school the headmistress referred him to a psychologist, noting how he used to bang his head against the classroom wall to gain attention. "I think my son's concentration wasn't the way it should have been, but he wasn't slow. I just heard an almighty screech. School had no hold on him - there was no corporal punishment or other form of penalty that touched him. Money, or his family's lack of it, preyed on his mind. When the court was played Jon's taped descriptions of how they had truanted they simultaneously smiled. Im bringing them up on my own, but if I went round and screwed every warehouse, my kids would have everything, too. Even so, while Roberts community was rough, his home life was perhaps worse, and could hardly be considered a refuge for the boy. everyone blamed Thompson and. They were in the Strand shopping centre in Bootle when the brother wandered off. Security launched a search for James inside the centre and James' family searched for their son overnight. He was fearful, he was weak and he was provoked," she said. Some neighbours claim they saw the boy snaring birds into traps in the back yard of his home, while one local youth claimed he saw the boy pull the heads off live baby pigeons. The Swedes, French, Germans, Canadian and Americans had all come to gaze at Liverpool's child killers. As the paedophile killer pleaded guilty on Wednesday to possessing more than 1,000 indecent images of children and a "paedo manual" - his parents words on their son's involvement make disturbing reading. I just think of James and his Dad and about all that fun with his little boy, like I had with Jon.". Guilty of abducting and murdering James PatrickBulger. It is just heartbreaking.". Mrs Venables has also said that she felt. Nicola had to exchange some clothes at TJ Hughes, Denise waited nearby, watching the children. At school Jon was considered bright enough, though he had trouble keeping up with lessons. She was living in secrecy but always felt that she was walking around with a huge sign: mother of Bulger killer, above her head. I know how I feel as a mother. Apart from Jon's incident with the ruler, there had been no record of previous violence. Birds. Once he stole decorating borders from a DIY shop which he discarded at regular intervals to mark his way home. He was fearful, he was weak and he was provoked. 'I think it has something to do with a hatred of vulnerability and babyness in themselves which they projected on to this toddler.'. Jon continued to attend Broad Square, where children of the neighborhood openly mocked and poked fun at his siblings, calling them backward. Jon was also an easy target due to a squint in his eye. But that is the common lot of thousands of 10-year-olds who have not turned into murderers. If it suited his moodwhich it frequently didBobby would beat the boys, curse at them, and threaten to send them to a home for children who misbehaved. He had been quiet that weekend, they said, but they had thought that was because his mother had taken him to the police station on the Friday evening for playing truant. Get out and get into Dyson Hall children's centre, the only residential care school in the country just outside Liverpool. But now and again. Get the biggest TV headlines, recaps and insider knowledge straight to your inbox. I would say he was provoked. Venables received a 40-month prison sentence after appearing via video link at the Old Bailey. This would have put Jon in a particularly arduous position, as the couples only excelling child, and as author Gitta Sereny observed from her time spent with the Venables in 1994, forcing this middle child, Jon, for a long time, perhaps unconsciously, to compensate his mother for her two problem children, put an enormous weight of responsibility on this child virtually from the time he was born., As Susan struggled to manage her two disadvantaged children day to day, Neil was the familys breadwinner, working as a forklift driver. I'm bringing up on my own but if I went round and screwed every warehouse my children would have everything too.'. Online Marketing For Your Business See today's front and back pages, download the newspaper, order back issues and use the historic Daily Express newspaper archive. He is broken- hearted over it. A police officer remembered Venables being so small that his legs didn't touch the floor as he sat in the custody office after his arrest. The living versions on the floor of the court looked equally wrinkled and austere. Murder of James Bulger. The couple, who also have a 13- year-old son, who has learning difficulties, and a 9-year-old daughter, denied that Jon was bullied by his brother or that he watched violent horror films at home. 'The attitude when you live where we live is that you have to be tough or else you don't survive,' she said. A day later, when James still hadnt been found, it was clear from CCTV footage that he had been taken by children. . ANN THOMPSON, the mother of Robert Thompson, child A, says her son is a thief, a liar, is devious and plays truant. In all, they played truant four times. Join Facebook to connect with Susan Venables and others you may know. Half way through the 1992-1993 school year, Robert had already racked up nearly 50 unauthorized absences, and was falling significantly behind in his schoolwork. Scores more watched proceedings from a neighbouring office block which, for the duration of the trial, came under court jurisdiction. This would have made little Robert the target of the fourth Thompson brother, who, in less than a years time, had confessed to arson, tried to stab his elder brother in a fit of rage, and had allegedly committed a lewd act against two small children (this incident was overlooked due to lack of evidence; however, because it was always considered a likely possibility that little Robert had been the victim of sexual abuse himself, and since Robert reportedly confirmed this years later, this occurrence involving his elder brother might be thought particularly revealing). qu fy. Mr Venables said that the two boys had played truant together four times before, adding that he caught them twice. This time, curiosity took the upper hand: 'I wanted to see what it was like,' he said. Mr Venables said: "He wouldn't watch horror. I would say he was provoked. Can Nigeria's election result be overturned? I used to get them for myself at night time. Their parents entered the courtroom; The Venables arrived together, Ann Thompson came with supporters but no sign of Robert's father. I didnt connect the dots until much later on. Her husband came back to Walton now and again to see his mother, but he never came to see the boys. Absence of a male role model is increasingly being explored - by both left and right - as one of the main reasons why today's boys and young men are going wrong; why 90 per cent of indictable offences are committed by men. so they were put in a lower year. One could draw some parallels between the film's plot and James Bulger's death. We have found 88 people in the UK with the name Susan Venables. The bird was taken to the vets where they are nursing it back to health. Three days later his body was found, and three days after that a tip-off came from a shopkeeper who had seen two boys playing truant on the day James went missing and gave police two names - Jon Venables and Robert Thompson. Some of the red brick houses were well-kept, others had torn net curtains and grubby windows. "Just TV programmes and little things remind me of the good times we had together . He didn't want to hurt James. wo. At Preston Crown Court Thompsons mother Ann and Venables parents Neil and Sue sat side by side. 'Provided you have no court orders for debts already,' the man on the phone would add helpfully. As his killers began their sentences, such was the revulsion that it was already clear their families could not. I feel so sorry for them. Grainy CCTV footage later showed the innocent toddler being led away by Venables and Thompson, who marched the little boy through the streets of Bootle for two miles - a walk that would have taken hours given his size. Verdict day came. He's quite bright and clever. They knew what they were doing," another wrote. The documentary last night featured interviews with those involved in the 1993 trial, including James dad Ralph Bulger, Jon Venables solicitor Laurence Lee and detective sergeant Phil Roberts, who interviewed Robert Thompson. March 10, 2021 - 20:29 GMT Eve Crosbie. James Bulgers mother Denise claims that she managed to track down Thompson six years ago, planning to confront him but instead stared at him from the opposite side of the street, full of rage but unable to act. WALTON, where they both lived, is, in the jargon of planning, an inner-city urban priority area; neither the best nor the worst the city has to offer. Although Susan couldnt recall any dramatic change in Jons behavior, his teachers there expressed some concern that Jon had become upset and difficult following the separation. He says 'I know, Mum'. Sometimes Robert would sag off on his own, but it was more fun with a friend. The Rt Reverend Glyn Webster lights a candle in front of the newly restored Lady Chapel East Window at All Saints North Street in York, one of thirteen stained glass windows from the church undergoing conservation work at Barley Studio, Royal College of Nursing (RCN) general secretary Pat Cullen on the picket line outside Great Ormond Street Hospital in London during a strike by nurses and ambulance staff, Britains former prime minister Liz Truss leaves her home on February 5, 2023 in London, England. . The two had an aberrant relationship with one another, in the sense that it was almost as though they had never divorced. I cant believe people find excuses for these murderers. One neighbour said she always let him into her home whenever his mother was out. We are proud to endorse the COP27 Leather Manifesto. "Youngsters are usually tried in a youth court, [Thompson and Venables] were tried in an adult court. She said an educational psychologist had diagnosed hyperactivity in her son, who was bullied at his previous school. The Royal Mint of a 50p coin featuring Professor Albus Dumbledore as part of a Harry Potter-themed collection. The couple was financially strained from the start, but Ann did what she could to make it work. Both had parents who had separated. 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Ann and Bobby fought regularly in front of the children, with virtually all of the fights leading to physical violence. She was prone to hysteria and hailed from a 'strict and disciplined' background. Between January and the day of the murder Robert had absconded 37 half days out of a possible 60 . But they shouldn't have been tried in an adult court because they were still children. To do that he put on the witness stand all those people who had seen the three boys on the route from the shopping centre to the railway line. On Monday night's documentary, Robert Thompson's solicitor Dominic Lloyd said: "Many years after the trial a juror said 'we found them guilty of murder but we didn't have the option to find them guilty of being two very bewildered and frightened little boys who made an awful mistake and need a lot of help'.". He didn't want to hurt James. 'I think about little James and what he must have gone through, how they must feel. James' mother Denise believes they should have remained in jail for life and has tirelessly campaigned against their rights to anonymity. Their seats were just below the raised dock where their sons would sit for the next three weeks, listening to a prosecution which aimed to prove not only that they killed James Bulger, but that they planned to, and that when they did they knew it to be wrong. The Americans fed 1 1/2 minutes of the Jamie Bulger story into a 22-minute bulletin of national and international news. Most people would regard such sentiments as having come rather late in the day and certainly too late to save poor James. At the end of the street a mesh wire frame coverered the window of the money lenders. his mother was told that it was important that she stayed in his life and stood by him. Look at mine. 'When you have got people in the area threatening to blow your kneecaps off every moment of the day - that's just the way they are. It was this empowering chemistry between them that some argued set into motion the life-altering events that would devastate a family, challenge a community, and rock a nations core in the disquieting months that followed. Moments later, we were told, Jon Venables uttered the words, We did it. fun to be with". They deal with drugs, they deal with everything. For weeks, she stayed in bed, not bothering to tend to the children, and when she finally did reemerge, she readily admitted she drank from morning to night, but had stopped taking the pills. She initially enrolled the two younger children in Broad Square Elementary, but it soon became clear that her daughter was struggling to keep up with the schools curriculum. 'I was the softie,' Neil Venables said. Teachers later reported that whereas the boys were manageable when separated, together their behavior worsened dramatically. He did like to be liked, and loved to have friends, and he has got involved with the wrong person.". They would hang around the video shop in Walton Village where the shop girl was pleased to have their company. After they became friends he initiated Jon into the delights of climbing into people's back gardens and the consequent thrill of being chased out by the owners. 'When the fisticuffs ended, they made friends.' Yes, these things are important, but trust. So much happened whilst I was there involving Jon. Last week the author Angela Phillips spoke of how the gentle son of the female friend of hers turned into a fascist skinhead: 'The boy his mother wanted him to become was not man enough for the world he was forced to inhabit. Last November he was arrested and recalled to jail on suspicion of possession of images of child sex abuse. The case is doomed to be picked over by every faction within the caring professionals and politics. release. Meanwhile Robert Thompson always regarded as the ringleader and the most likely of the murderous duo to fall by the wayside is said to be doing well. Then there were the separated parents, the poverty, the truanting, the videos. One woman asked how James had injured his forehead. Another time they were saucy and asked a sales girl if she stocked 'fishy nickers'. He wore his dark hair short, almost a crew cut, which accentuated his ample forehead and blunt nose. Mrs Thompson worked as an office cleaner until two years ago, when she got pregnant again by another man, who also left her. Will you tell his mum I'm sorry?". The Venables decided to place her with their eldest son, in a school for children with special needs. The week after he walked out the family's home burned down in an accidental fire. as he was known in court - Jon Venables. . Self pity? His father, thin and balding, had a much gentler edge. 'I thought he was all right,' said Boy B, as he was known in court - Jon Venables. A newsroom reporter who was not working on the case fended off transatlantic interview demands, saying that it was not enough that he had a Liverpool accent. Mr Venables said it had never crossed their minds that the video pictures from the security cameras in the shopping centre from which James went missing showed their own son. 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