ANSWER: Im not sure. And Garretson does most of the talking. It's possible one of Billy's wives was a cousin, no clue how distant yet, of Charles Manson. Maybe two counting when the police let him go. Marvin was bigger in '67. Other choices existed. ANSWER: Yes. Garretson polygraph interview - "I used to have a '68 camaro when i lived in Ohio, but i sold it before i came out to california". Just a loving mama safely holding her tiny baby like she did back when their lives had hope. Everything said about sex with another man is related to that one happenstance. QUESTION: Did they bark any more than usual that night? Sometime after completing high school, Billy made the mistake of a lifetime when he hitchhiked from Ohio to Los Angeles. QUESTION: Did Mr. Parent engage in a conversation with you about the identity of two women within the main house? The 2 Gypsy women offered the same kind of "hospitality" to ALL 5 OF US in exchange for his release! Billy wrestled in high school. The little boy his mom called so gentle he wouldn't hunt or fish because he didn't want to hurt animals, and the best advocate that little boy ever had. QUESTION: Mr. Garretson, do you recall having a conversation with officers of the Los Angeles Police Department on or about August the 10th, 1969, at Parker Center, which is located at 150 Anti-establishment mindset. They shared an apartment an hour from the airport in Columbus. He was TOTALLY oblivious to any of it.We actually had to "barter" (in the strangest manner ever) for his return. People . ANSWER: I purchased a TV dinner and some cigarettes and some Pepsi-Cola. Somewhere around there. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. Derr described her ex-husband, who died in 2016, as a very good, loving man, and cited those qualities as the reason she married him. QUESTION: You were carrying a carton of Coca-Cola in one hand? William Garretson has spent most of the last 25 years trying to forget how close he came to becoming one of Manson's victims. These cookies do not store any personal information. ANSWER: You mean 7 or 8 around the pool or what? Buntline, yes thanks. Alex Murdaugh has been convicted Thursday of killing his wife and son. They are brothers. These folks who made things happen/attended the show were made up of people who were aged 2yrs old to 90yrs old!The gentleman who eventually paid us pulled us aside and gave us the lowdown about the places that we were emphatically told to avoid (robbery, pickpockets, Gypsies, hard drugs, mentally unstable people who refused to accept professional care, kidnappers, etc). ANSWER: I decided to go back to the guest cottage where I lived. William Garretson. Or spit him back to Ohio after shattering his mind. ANSWER: Well, they kept accurate time if I would wind them up. A friend down on Santa Monica Boulevard. Charles Manson and Watson had been on that property prior. $1.85 can only get one so far.Also, it has been traditionally held that Rudi Altobelli met Bill via hitchhiking. Or "the truth" as you put it. ANSWER: Writing letters and listening to the stereo. I am in possession of what purports to be a transcript of an interview with Mr. Garretson at 4:25 pm, on August 10th, 1969, where this witness was asked about the events that took place on August 8th and 9th. I never heard of a single religious grandmother who'd be down with all that, especially not a Protestant. Tell me no one, not even that crew, is that stupid, Billy. QUESTION: Did everything seem to be in order? I went down Im not sure I usually do different things every day. York to Bedford. He was the caretaker of the Polanski residence, 10050 Cielo Drive in Benedict Canyon, at the time of Sharon Tate's murder by Tex Watson, Susan Atkins, and Patricia Krenwinkel.. Garretson, who stayed in a small cottage behind the main house, was miraculously unharmed and undisturbed during the murders on August 9, 1969. QUESTION: Do you recall what the records were? I'm thinking about taking a road trip to Billy's grave this week, touching the headstone, and telling him I hope he's found some peace. I mostly only internally discuss food wants and upcoming meals with myself. Perhaps in the spring I can find a way to bring Pearce into all of this.they'll umm surely love it. ANSWER: No. QUESTION: Did you say anything to Christopher when he started to bark and woke you up? Plus, I hate to say it but I think my early Wesleyan training got to me. QUESTION: I show you Peoples 17 for identification, Mr. Garretson, and draw your attention to the passengers side of the car. MR. BUGLIOSI: Object, Your Honor, this is beyond the scope of the direct examination. MR. BUGLIOSI: I have here another photograph, Your Honor, showing a portion of a residence. Just ask one. That seems not likely but I base that on my own laziness and regard for comfort. !And, that ALMOST answers your query - "I doubt anyone in history ever slept thru a hummer before but what do I know? QUESTION: He actually owned the guest house? But if he didn't, where was he? You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. I'm not sure how long he was in LA before 8/8/69. And didn't he have any fear of the bad things that happen in the skin trade? Los Angeles and its carnate representatives put the mind break on Billy from every angle. You hit the nail on the head. By the time Bill was ready to begin school, he was already milking cows and doing chores. His buddy Darrell, home from Vietnam, visited but Garretson kicked him out when he saw Darrell take bottles of champagne during one of the Polanskis house parties that summer. ANSWER: The only party that I remember is that they had a very large party in, I think it was June. Isnt that correct? It's not a stretch to wonder if things he experienced during that period might help us better understand the goings on at Cielo prior to the murders. We are here for blood." Re: The Partisan, we're nearing the time of year when I play every version of Hallelujah I can find endlessly until New Year's. At 59, he is a big-rig truck driver. Pref - awesome username and thank you for the compliment. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. QUESTION: Did you walk by the main house when you walked back to the guest house? We were traveling with another band that supported us for the entire tour. According to our Database, He has no children. I've surely told many lies in my life to make myself look better and therefore have no stones to cast at Charlie. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. I don't have a link, but I have seen the transcript of the interview in a number of places. QUESTION: And you have been there ever since? Out of these, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. ANSWER: They were staying with me in the living room. QUESTION: How long would the gate stay open? QUESTION: Do you recall what you were listening to in the guest house, on the stereo? I haven't got a clue about WHERE this dialogue was (apologies, stabby Tex pain and, heaps of codeine) but, perhaps Grim, Starviego, Whut, Patty, or, SOMEONE else can remember and, give us a link.Love your posts GW. QUESTION: You can just answer that yes or no. MR. STOVITZ: At one time, Counsel, or all? The list is endless. I bet he loved how young you looked and your wrestler body. Buntline - Agree. I have a friend who is a flower wholesaler. Thanks for the time you spend crafting your pieces, GreenWhite, and may the ink in your pen never run dry. QUESTION: Were you friendly with any of the gardeners? We're getting ahead of ourselves. William Garretson (1738 - 1810) - Genealogy - geni family tree They were more or less convinced that they had the person who committed the murders: me. The property at 10050 Cielo Drive was designed by renowned architect Robert Byrd in 1942 and completed in 1944. ANSWER: I dont understand what you mean. QUESTION: What was the nature of Mr. Parents visit to you? Billy possibly had one lucky day in his entire life and you know when I mean. Her employer, Gray Drug, was founded in Cleveland, Ohio, in 1912. QUESTION: In other words, you were hitchhiking? The family resided there for several years, moving back to Smith County, Kansas, in 1933, to a farm in Pleasant Township. ANSWER: Yes, I seen Miss Folgers Firebird. Prosecution witness William Garretson was born on August 24, 1949 in Lancaster, Ohio. 3. Jon Gries Wife. This was the first time I was able to clearly catch Charlie lying and for some reason it felt like a slap in the face. Also from his polygraph interview;"and I was going to go back to Ohio in March, and I was picked up for Possession of Marijuana, and it was lowered to Visitation. Distractify is a registered trademark. QUESTION: The next afternoon at approximately 4:25 in the afternoon, did you have a conversation with some police officers? THE COURT: Cross-examination, Mr. Fitzgerald? William Garretson Cielo Drive Caretaker (1949-2016 Copyright 2020 Legal Disclosures, Terms of Service, Privacy Policy I dont know. QUESTION: And you were questioned at that time, were you not? Thank you, Proteus. He was running low on money when he was hired to be the caretaker for the residence that eventually became the site of the brutal murders. She was Billy's second wife. QUESTION: You didnt have a watch or clock? In Glenna's wedding announcement, not with Bill, didn't see what happened there but they weren't married, Glenna is also called a popular girl in town. Billy tells Bugliosi in courtthat he moved out of Cielo Dr. on August 9th. QUESTION: What happened to Christopher? QUESTION: And you talked over there, correct? QUESTION: Did you ever use the pool in the vicinity of the main house? ANSWER: The line was dead. The guards see the driver on the camera walking out of the toilet. A little while later, the woman of the house calls my friend on his personal phone and demands he fire the driver or they're done doing business together. The Untold Truth Of Sharon Tate - Grunge.com Could Billy have been deliberately placed at Cielo as an informant? While Charles Manson was commissioning the LaBianca murders to cover his tracks, it also led police to rule William out as a suspect, as the LaBianca murders occurred while he was in custody. At this show there was a third band that was going to play between our support band and us.The three of us and our puny crew and, our 3 bus drivers got down to some pretty serious drinking starting around 11am. ANSWER: Yes. Impromptu writing workshops also routinely take place if you're the typing sort and wish to post. ANSWER: Just July and August? Discover today's celebrity birthdays and explore famous people who share your birthday. This is not an unusual phenomena at all. In 1964 she met hairstylist Jay Sebring, who had recently separated from his wife. QUESTION: Do you recall it being brisk, or did it appear to be a typical August evening? He was the caretaker of the Polanski residence, 10050 Cielo Drive in Benedict Canyon. Garretson, a 1967 Lancaster High graduate, was 19 years old and working as a caretaker at actress Sharon Tate's home at the time of her murder, along with six others. QUESTION: Did you hear any screams or hollers or yells that evening? It turned out the firecrackers were gunshots. I didn't know other drugstores existed for the first twelve years of my life. QUESTION: How loud were you playing your stereo? Rich people don't want contact with the hoi polloi. QUESTION: I show you Peoples 22 for identification. I've been in that canyon more times that I care to remember. The larger dog. --Who paid the fee for Billy's high priced lawyer, and why?--How did Billy manage to avoid the draft? Was never hard to get a ride either. William Garretson Browne, age 90, passed peacefully after a long illness surrounded by his dedicated wife, four sons and brother in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio on August 31, 2017. If you read through Billy's. This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. Does anyone consider a bj sex? QUESTION: You had seen him on or about the premises? Miriam Frazier Parsons. Which is probably true anyway but whatever. One of Kathleen's two sisters died at 20 years old from the flu. Btw, Washington Courthouse is pronounced, you guessed it, Warshington Courthouse. She was already a business college graduate and out in the work world. More:Local resident adds 'strange' details about gory Manson killing spree, More:From the archives: Mother thinks son couldn't be killer, More:From the archives: Garretson freed in LA, Charles Manson, one of nation's most infamous mass killers, dead at 83. Just kidding. MR. BUGLIOSI: I have here a closer-up photograph showing the front side of the residence. Steven Parent (Victim) - CharlesManson.com QUESTION: Do you recall if there were any lights inside the Polanskis residence? Next sentence, "Even as a child I knew they were not smart." LANCASTER - Charles Manson's death Sunday brought back memories of his connections to central and southern Ohio. All Rights Reserved. You're right and good point. (Aaron Sr. and Aaron Jr.) Aaron Garretson, Sr., our 3 rd great-grandfather, was the 7th of 10 children in a Quaker family. QUESTION: What woke you up, the police or the dogs? QUESTION: But throughout the night you were awake? Both of Kathleen's sisters, and Luther, even tho he looks like Slingblade in his mugshot, were good looking people. QUESTION: And this would activate the gate and open it, is that correct? Garretson. "My husband, I really don't think anybody in the area here, never gave him a chance of day," Linda Derr, Garretson's ex-wife, said. I tried to locate Linda when I was gathering information for this post but I was too late. What's up, Bill?". Bill Garretson Interview About Tate Murders - True Crime - Unexplained Torque - it's just crazy to imagine. There's no way he could do that because of his personality and how nice he was. Two quick reactions, one to the piece and one to a comment above . QUESTION: Now, there are 4 entrances to the guest house, correct? (A historical marker located in Waterloo in Monroe County, Illinois.) ANSWER: No, I would say about 15 to 20 seconds, something like that. QUESTION: You dont particularly recall this particular afternoon, is that right? Warrington Monthly Meeting had been established in 1730 and many of the early meetings were held in the home of William Garretson, according to "Inventory of Church Archives" published by the Society of Friends. It was quite strange but not in the way you are describing. QUESTION: During what period of time did you live at that address? Miriam Garretson born 23 May 1755, married Vincent Parsons 6. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. We are not interested in what the witness usually did. Sound travels in strange and unexpected ways in those settings and what people in the area (Wm G. included) reported is entirely in line with reality. You think any young rubes who fell in way over their heads are heading home for good at the end of this month? I've long thought my next door neighbor is related to Charlie somehow. QUESTION: All right, when were you released? I didn't have a car and as far as I remember the only buses were long distance Greyhounds. By using this site you agree to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. QUESTION: Are you familiar with .22 caliber pistols? QUESTION: You have never been to Spahn Movie Ranch? Hollywood glitterati panicked. I mean the main house. Is this the entrance here? @ GreenWhite, I also live in the southern half of Ohio, in the eastern area. MR. BUGLIOSI: I would request as a foundational question that you ask him again for clarification if the dog barked that night. "They never really was taught or loved, so no, I do not want to hate. QUESTION: Looking at the photograph, do you have any impression as to where the photograph was taken from? QUESTION: How did you get from the gate to the guest house, what route did you take? And he was high profile. I didnt wind them up. Winifred Chapman, did you know her? At 67 years old, William Garretson height not available right now. Could Billy have been deliberately placed at Cielo as an informant?How Garretson got the job is irrelevant and therefore a distraction and it was important, especially so early in the trial {I think he was the third witness}, not to entertain things that could get any juror's mind wandering.Later in the trial, when Rudi Altobelli is on the stand, both Bugliosi and Ronald Hughes question him a bit on the hiring of Bill Garretson. Criminal penalty. "And he knew a lot of movie star agents, but he wanted to say bye to California after that was all over with and he never went back except for his trial.". Mysteries. North Los Angeles Street in the City of Los Angeles? Where is William Garretson today, on the 50th anniversary of the murders? MR. BUGLIOSI: May I mark this guest house, Your Honor? Letting an older gay guy blow you hardly amounts to being gay oneself and certainly does not suggest that one is some kind of street hustler. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. Although copies of the newspaper were hard to come by during his tour in Vietnam, Groff happened to see one and described his shock of seeing a former classmate on the front page. I never will. What did he do, and how did he support himself? He later married Linda Derr, and the pair had a son together. Their son was born with a heart condition and he ended up dying after his third open-heart surgery. !when they ask Billy during his polygraph if he ever had sex with a man, and Billy replies that he has, I notice that many researchers harmonize that statement with the blowjob taleActually, it's not researchers that do the harmonizing, it's Garretson himself. QUESTION: The other two dogs stayed inside the living room? Donna Jean never gets no love. Tobiasragg, I stood at the hairpin turn on Cielo Drive last May and listened to my surroundings. Sarah Garretson born 2 Mar 1753, married in 1773 to James Wickersham born 1743 5. QUESTION: Have you ever lived at the address, 10050 Cielo Drive in the City of Los Angeles? I definitely remember Billy's sleeping thru a bj story but the train part is for stronger minds lol. QUESTION: What is shown in that photograph? Why I shouldn't eat this or that, what about on Saturday though, basic stuff. Bill Daniels Instagram While the accomplished actor has had many successes throughout his career, he describes his wife as his "biggest win in life." Despite the lack of direct evidence, the prosecution spent weeks outlining how Murdaugh had the motive, means and opportunity . Pete - Funny and succinct. In another amazing blunder by police, the two bloody murders were originally deemed to be unrelated and were investigated by separate homicide teams. QUESTION: In the presence of Lieutenant A.H. Burdick? It was just enough so that I could hear it. Please don't stay forever angry, Mrs. Billy #1. As someone with a strange interest in peripheral characters, i've previously looked up Darrel Kistler, Patty Maloney, Debra Tidwell, Roy Plank et al, but does anyone know who Tom and Dave, the gardening brothers, were?Tom, who had a Mustang, would occasionally park up by the gates with a girl. He said they barked but nothing out of the ordinary. QUESTION: Without telling me what he said, did Mr. Parent ask you well, without telling me the nature what was said in the conversation, did you have a discussion with Mr. Parent QUESTION: His barking then was not extraordinary or unusual in any respect? QUESTION: Now, when you were up during the night listening to the stereo and writing letters, were you in the living room? Where was Billy for those seven days after being released from jail?IF Garretson was an informant, it might explain where he was in those seven days, as well as how he avoided the draft and how he escaped the dope charge in LA. Has never stopped. Even with the stereo on in the guesthouse, it is extraordinary that Bill did not hear this. MR. BUGLIOSI: May I put another X and mark it couch, Your Honor? Somewhat related, when they ask Billy during his polygraph if he ever had sex with a man, and Billy replies that he has, I notice that many researchers harmonize that statement with the blowjob tale. "Garretson also let friends stay at the guest house. William Garretson, called as a witness by and on behalf of the People, was examined and testified as follows: QUESTION: Where do you presently reside, Mr. Garretson? ANSWER: I didnt wind them, no. His phone even. MR. BUGLIOSI: I would request this, Your Honor, instead of his posture being that of impeachment. ANSWER: I wrote a few letters and listened to the stereo. "My husband, I really don't think anybody in the area here, never gave him a chance of day," Linda Derr, Garretson's ex-wife said. William Garretson Cielo Drive Caretaker (1949-2016). Were you wearing a jacket? Do you know what is shown in that photograph? ANSWER: No. He made a phone call, though, before he left. MR. KANAREK: Object, Your Honor, on the grounds that it is leading and suggestive. William Garretson was 19, from Ohio and lived in the guesthouse. An Army wife, pageant mom, and beauty salon owner, Doris Tate went on to become a leading voice in the victims' rights movement, founding COVER, . QUESTION: You dont recall whether it was chilly out or not, do you? Every young person loves living at home after they become adults. He's on a little hill with his mom, framed by the forest around them, and watching the sun rise and set every day. She was executed on March 20, 1899, at Sing Sing Correctional Facility for the murder of her stepdaughter Ida Place. One I would have liked to ask Bill would be one that G&W has echoed here. Parent was the first one killed, shot by Watson in the driver's seat of his car after visiting the guest house to see William Garretson, the property caretaker, to see if he wanted to buy a piece . QUESTION: When you heard the dogs Christopher bark 2 or 3 hours after Steven Parent left, was it your state of mind that a guest was arriving on the premises? MR. BUGLIOSI: Your Honor, I have here another photograph of the interior of a car. Ladies and gentlemen, do not converse among yourselves nor with anyone else on any subject relating to this case nor form or express any opinion regarding this case until it is finally submitted to you. QUESTION: You have swam in the pool, havent you? son. A more important question is ~ what did he do with the shirt he was given ? Garretson again reassured police that he had heard nothing because he had been listening to music all night. ANSWER: I couldnt really say, but it was just before daybreak. "Because when Justin finally woke up (fortunately around 20mins before we were supposed to go on) he had a VERY weak recollection of how he came to lose his stuff (fortunately, no beating or organ harvesting occurred) AND, HE HAD ZERO RECOLLECTION OF HIS "Bill Garretson" tag team Gypsy session! Where Is William Garretson Today? He Alone Survived the Manson Slayings 11th Grade. Doug,I wish I could help with the Patty dialogue but don't recall ever seeing it. All rights reserved. May it be marked Peoples 22 for identification? QUESTION: And you were under the employ of one Rudi Altobelli, correct? In a 1970 interview with the Columbus Citizen-Journal, William Garretson said he left Lancaster in the fall of 1968 and hitch-hiked to California. ANSWER: No, not oh, from a distance, you know. I noticed this at the same time I was reading Hillbilly Elegy recently. Im not sure. Garretson, a 1967 Lancaster High graduate, was 19 years old and working as a caretaker at actress Sharon Tate's home at the time of her murder, along with six others. MR. BUGLIOSI: Your Honor, may I put an X there and mark it stereo?. he was or anything. ANSWER: I think it is a clock radio that he had brought with him. QUESTION: Police officers asked you about what you had heard or seen on Friday night and Saturday morning, August 8th and 9th? Tobacco use contributed to his death at age sixty-six. Have you heard people talking, just one another in the vicinity of the pool, not necessarily did you hear any particular The people who served in Vietnam did so before their time in Manson land---Flynn, TJ the Terrible, etc. ANSWER: Yes. QUESTION: Have you ever heard a .22 caliber rifle fired? Maybe he tried women's wigs first and failed. QUESTION: Is this called the guest house? I figured because I had trouble with the phone I had trouble with the phone about a month prior. ANSWER: Yes. Manson's plan seemingly backfired, and William was released. Cost-effective for sure, but (far more importantly) a great opportunity for a spontaneous adventure. Maybe it took awhile to receive permission to leave town but Billy remained in California for a full week after the police release him before returning home to Ohio. John Garretson. Actually, I'm attempting to appear interesting. QUESTION: You testified on your direct examination I believe that the dogs used to bark when people would come to the residence. 9:45 am Monday. Really awesome group of people who all contributed to the various tasks necessary for the show to happen (hosts, hospitality, cooks, roadies, sound techs, "housekeeping"(families who would put us up for the evening), facilitators of what seemed to be unending libations of pretty much ANYTHING we inquired about, etc). A couple thousand? THE COURT: What part do you claim impeaches him? For classmates and the ex-wife of William Garretson, a Lancaster native. Before we get motoring, I want to assert that one indisputable truth in this whole big Charles Manson milieu is that the road is littered with children no one gave a shit about and often hurt. MR. BUGLIOSI: Peoples 16 for identification. The Tate-LaBianca Homicide Research Blog: WILLIAM GARRETSON QUESTION: Do you remember the day, August 8th, 1969, a Friday? Tony Montoya - Kill Me Again (1989) as Alan Swayzie A model year Camaro at home though and he hitches across the country with pocket change? Do you recog- Billy studies business and is on the wrestling team but absent from the team photo. Brother of John Garretson; Ann Griest; James Garretson, I; Content . He was the homosexual that Charles mentioned in a interview that sold him drugs and pornography on several occasions. QUESTION: Now, Mr. Parent came to the guest house, did you engage in some conversations? You are ordered to return Monday, Mr. Garretson. How did you become his rent boy? Talk about a good way to keep the miles off of that car.Bill Garretson did get charged for posession of marijuana in LA, but I've not seen an arrest or police report on that.It is believed by some that Bill could ultimately have been facing probation in California.
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